Taliyah mid is viable again?

Taliyah and Olaf Will Receive Updates in Patch 12.9

Champions 26-04-2022 20:18

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Riot August recently announced on Twitter that two champion will be receiving mini reworks at some point in 2022. Those two champions are none other than Olaf and Taliyah, two champions that have gotten lost in obscurity.

What could Riot change on these champions, and who is in desperate need of a rework? How far will Riot go for these champions? Let's make some predictions about these updates coming at some point this year, and let's try to guesstimate when they'll be released.

Taliyah Mid-Scope Update in 2022

When you look at Taliyah and her kit, you probably think that she is pretty fun, right? A mobile mage who can quickly make her way through the jungle into the top and bot lane, but in recent times she's lost her touch.

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That's why Riot is going to try and bring her back into the meta. The mini rework will be akin to the one Ahri received earlier this year, and we all saw what a glow up it had for the mid laner.

What Will Taliyah's Mid-Scope Update Look Like?

Abilities/Stats	Changes
Base Stats	Armor 20 --> 18 HP 531 --> 500 HP/5 9.34+0.85/lvl --> 8+0.8/lvl Mana 425 --> 470
Rock Surfing (P)	Out of combat movement speed: 20%-45% by lvl 18 --> 10/20/35/55% at 1/9/12/15 Time before passive falls off away from walls 1s --> 2.5s Bug fix where Taliyah could lose her passive permanently if she had a spell shield
Threaded Volley (Q)	[NEW] Deals damage in an 175 radius AoE Damge: 70-170(+.45 AP) --> 38-130(+.5 AP) Extra rock damage reduction 50% --> 60% Max Q damage 210-510(+1.35 AP) --> 98.8-338(1.3 AP) Cooldown 7-3 --> 6.5-2.5 Cost 50-90 --> 60-80 [NEW] Worked Ground cast is a single hit boulder, hit in an 225 radius AoE deals 2x damage (76-260(+1.0AP)) to the primary target and slows everything hit by 30-50% for 2s [NEW] Worked ground cast has new VFX, SFX, animation and icons Worked Ground mana cost 1 --> 30 Worked ground min CD 1s --> 0.75s [NEW] Casting on Worked Ground consumes the Worked Ground Worked Ground radius 300 --> 400 Worked Ground duration 25s --> 30s Worked Ground on Howling Abyss is now the same as Summoner's Rift Extra rock damage reduction on jungle monster 25% --> 60% (same as normal Q) [NEW] Q deals 150% damage to monster [NEW] Will now continue to cast while Taliyah is in stasis Fixed a bug where Worked Ground Q would sometimes not get the reduced cooldown
Seismic SHove (W)	Damage 60-140(+.4 AP) --> REMOVED Delay before knockup .8 --> .65 AoE Radius 200 --> 225 Cooldown 16-12 --> 14-8 Mana Cost 70-110 --> 60-0
Unravelled Earth (E)	[NEW] Mines stun enemies that dash through them for 1s Up front damage 50-150(+4. AP) --> 60-240(+.6 AP) Damage after 4s 50-150(+.3 AP) --> REMOVED Detonation Damage 50-90(+.3 AP) --> 25-105(+.3 AP) Damage reduction per mine 15% --> 25% Max detonation damage 155-279(+.93 AP) --> 62.5-262.5(+.75 AP) Cooldown 16-8 --> 16-12 Number of rows (range) 4 --> 6 Mines per row (width) 6 --> 4 Mine spawn delay between rows (effects how fast they go out) .1 --> .17 Delay after cast time before first mine spawns 1s --> 0 Field duration 4 --> 5
Weaver's Wall (R)	Range 3000-6000 --> 2500-6500 Damage no longer knocks Taliyah off her wall [NEW] Cannot cast within 3s of taking damage from an enemy champion or structure Moving jumps off the wall perpendicular to the direction of travel --> Moving causes Taliyah to dash to the location she clicked, up to a maximum dash range Jump off dash range 400 --> 700 Jump off dash speed 1000 --> 1200 Jump off dash now has more forgiveness when attempting to dash through a wall

With these changes Taliyah is going to have much of her burst damage lowered, instead she's got some AoE damage back in her Q, which had initially made her an extremely OP pick in pro play. That's why Riot has cut so much of her damage, but through PBE testing they might shift some of the numbers around according to Riot August.

Not only does she have AoE damage on her Q now, but she's also able to stun opponents. Will we be seeing a lot more Taliyah in the bot lane as a support now? These changes were meant for both mid lane and jungle Taliyah, but support Taliyah could also rise once more from the ashes.

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We're beginning to ramp up work on "mid-scope updates". These are larger sets of changes for champions that can take a couple months to lock down. The recent Ahri and Janna adjustments are examples of work in this space.

Mid-scopes for Taliyah and Olaf are currently in flight. pic.twitter.com/X6PRyxuFA9
— August (@RiotAugust) March 29, 2022

Olaf Mid-Scope Update in 2022

Olaf's mid-scope update would bring the jungler into the 2020s as well. Olaf is fun, but he's very one dimensional, which in the current state of League of Legends isn't always a good thing.

Sure, his ultimate makes him 10% bigger, but is that really something we need from him? He's a very straightforward champion and it's easy for enemies to anticipate this champion's moves, hence why Riot will have to bring his abilities up to par with the current state of League.

What Will Olaf's Mid-Scope Update Look Like?

Not only will Riot look at his base stats, but his passive, Q, W and ultimate will also be adjusted. His W is going to be completely reworked as well from what we can tell on the PBE Server.

These are all the changes currently on the PBE Server

Base Stats
- Attack Damage :: 68 (+3.5/level), 127.5 at level 18 >>> 68 (+4.7/level), 148 at level 18
- Health :: 575 (+100/level), 2275 at level 18 >>> 575 (+105/level), 2360 at level 18
- Mana :: 316 (+42/level), 1030 at level 18 >>> 316 (+60/level), 1336 at level 18
Berserker Rage (P)
- Calculation reworked to grant max effectiveness at or below 30% health
- Maximum Attack Speed granted :: 99% >>> 40-100% (levels 1-18)
- [NEW] Now gives up to 12-35% life steal (levels 1-18), based on Olaf's missing health
Undertow (Q)
- [NEW] - Shreds 25/27.5/30/32.5/35% armor for 4 seconds on champion hit
- Damage :: 80/125/170/215/260 >>> 60/110/160/210/260
- Minimum Range :: Approximately 300 >>> 425
- Mana Cost :: 60 at all ranks >>> 40/45/50/55/60
- Cooldown :: 7 seconds >>> 8 seconds
- Cooldown refund on axe pickup :: 4.5 seconds >>> 5 seconds
Vicious Strike (W)
- [NEW] Resets Olaf’s basic attack
- [NEW] Olaf gains 70/115/160/205/250 (+25% of Olaf’s missing health) as a shield for 2.5 seconds
- [REMOVED] No longer grants Life Steal
- [REMOVED] No longer amplifies Olaf’s healing based on missing health
- Attack Speed :: 50/60/70/80/90% for 6 seconds >>> 40/50/60/70/80% for 4 seconds
- Cooldown :: 16 seconds at all ranks>>> 16/14.5/13/11.5/10 seconds
Ragnarok (R)
- [NEW] Hitting a champion with a basic attack or E - Reckless Swing extends the duration of Ragnarok to 2.5 seconds. Olaf can refresh Ragnarok indefinitely.
- Duration :: 6 seconds >>> 3 seconds
- [REMOVED] R - Ragnarok's passive's bonus resistances are no longer lost for the duration of the cast

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When Could the Reworks Release?

The Olaf update has hit the PBE 12.8 server, but will stay online at least until Patch 12.9, while Taliyah's rework should be on PBE for 12.9 and also be released then. That is what Riot Axes has explained on Reddit at least.

Who else is excited to play some Olaf and Taliyah after their updates? Both are iconic champions, but seem to have drowned over recent times because of other champions becoming much more prominent. Hopefully these mid-scope updates boost their play and win rates up, just like they did for Ahri.